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Author:  Lodor [ Tue May 06, 2014 3:32 am ]
Post subject:  Rogue backstab skill
Just curious on this skill.

I seems to do the same damage regardless of using 1 or 5 bubbles of tech points.

Also, using a piercer in main hand is supposed to grant 2 combo bonus. What exactly is 2 combo bonus since I have tried with and without a piercer in main hand and notice no differences in any way.
Author:  Maelfyn [ Wed May 07, 2014 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
I'm going to rework this a bit tonight since I'm doing its talent too. Expect it to make more sense tonight.
Author:  shaqtus [ Wed May 07, 2014 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Was backstab nerfed? I used to have most of my crits hit for 9999, now I'm seeing most in the 7k range with regular hits much lower (2-4k) with full points in the backstab talent and only using the skill with full points.
Author:  Maelfyn [ Wed May 07, 2014 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
It shouldn't feel nerfed. My tooltip went up in damage if your mana is full, but in some cases it may have appeared to go down.
Author:  shaqtus [ Wed May 07, 2014 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Ok it's being weird. Now I'm seeing the same thing on the first hit - normal hits are 3-4k, crits up to 7k, up to 10k with wood elf passive and evade and I also just saw a second hit, small text, that crit for 32k (crippling blow) with evade/wood elf passive up.

That's the first time I remember seeing a second hit. It does look like the first hit is lower damage though. Maybe it's just me.
Author:  shaqtus [ Wed May 07, 2014 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Just had another hit immediately after a backstab - this time it was a crit for 54k. It's only happening maybe once every 40-50 backstabs.

The regular backstab hit was for 4k.
Author:  Maelfyn [ Wed May 07, 2014 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
shaqtus wrote:
Just had another hit immediately after a backstab - this time it was a crit for 54k. It's only happening maybe once every 40-50 backstabs.

The regular backstab hit was for 4k.

Sounds like assassinate from cold blood bonus.
Author:  shaqtus [ Thu May 08, 2014 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Ohhhhh...

I don't have any points in the cold blood talent, but that does make sense with the issues with the talent mapping!
Author:  Maelfyn [ Thu May 08, 2014 12:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
fixing now. In le fixing mode. Looking over the posts to make sure I don't miss one. Already fixed the sonic strike issue.
Author:  shaqtus [ Thu May 08, 2014 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Couple of things with the talents after the fixes:

1. It doesn't look like Hyper Strike is doing anything, talented or not. My skill haste stays at 47% regardless of whether I have the buff up or not.

2. What does the 20 pt bonus on prowling gash do?

3. Prowling gash becomes a super weak skill with the cooldown. At 20 pts its only 2kish to three targets.

Everything else is working great. The 20 pt bonuses for Widow strike and Sonic strike look like the all star talents.
Author:  Maelfyn [ Thu May 08, 2014 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
1. I think just the stat page is not updating. It is making your skill haste faster.
2. Rapid auto attack frenzy.
3. Eh, might reduce the cd here.
Author:  shaqtus [ Thu May 08, 2014 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Thanks for the clarification.

Is skill haste capped at 60% with hyperstrike or can hyperstrike push it over 60?
Author:  Maelfyn [ Thu May 08, 2014 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
No the cap is still 60. Obviously this would change your gear priorities.
Author:  Lodor [ Fri May 09, 2014 3:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Im still not noticing a double backstab unless that 170ish hit is supposed to be the 2nd backstab hit.

Ill hit with the 1st backstab for maybe 2800 then a followup for 170. SHouldnt a double backstab hit twice hard now hit hard once that barely scratch on the 2nd?
Author:  Maelfyn [ Fri May 09, 2014 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
I saw this working on test. Maybe refresh? I will double check it tomorrow. It WAS broken at first.
Author:  Lodor [ Fri May 09, 2014 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
DOuble backstab worked once i repsecced again but now the 20 skill for widow strike is not adding any poison damage to any melee hits.
Author:  Lodor [ Sat May 10, 2014 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Any news on widow strike? Last time i 20 pointed it the poison buff for melee hits wasnt working.
Author:  Maelfyn [ Sun May 11, 2014 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rogue backstab skill
Poison damage should be fixed next update.
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