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Author:  Maelfyn [ Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:36 am ]
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First to clear Hell - Normal:

Warrior: Fitzor Fail (first overall)
Monk: Tadsen Fu
Rogue: Vrynn Fail
Paladin: Vassey
Shadow Knight: Gorgur
Ranger: Tadtwo TheRain
Bard: Tadace Ace
Druid: Mukkel Fail
Cleric: Zaera
Shaman: Slowem Fail
Necromancer: Corpse
Enchanter: Zinlinkin
Magician: Yilil
Wizard: Nerolyn

First to level 99 - Normal:

Warrior: Fitzor Fail (first overall)
Monk:
Rogue: Shaqtus
Paladin:
Shadow Knight:
Ranger: Jysen Darkwind
Bard: Tadace Ace
Druid:
Cleric:
Shaman:
Necromancer: Megidos
Enchanter: Tonic
Magician:
Wizard:

First of clear Hell - Hardcore:

Warrior: Tiny
Monk: CuddlesHC
Rogue:
Paladin:
Shadow Knight: Gurkaz
Ranger:
Bard: SwetnHard
Druid: Earth
Cleric: Zzion
Shaman: Gorkan
Necromancer:
Enchanter: Yolo (first overall)
Magician:
Wizard:

First to level 99 - Hardcore:

Warrior:
Monk:
Rogue:
Paladin:
Shadow Knight:
Ranger:
Bard:
Druid:
Cleric: Zzion
Shaman:
Necromancer:
Enchanter:
Magician:
Wizard:

Author:  Lost_Map [ Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:04 am ]
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:( What, am I chopped Liver?

Corpse - Cleared Hell, Not 99

Author:  Maelfyn [ Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:16 am ]
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Congrats! I'm not omniscient!

Author:  TadaceAce [ Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:51 am ]
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Put me down for Bard > Virtuoso Tadace

Took me all day but finally finished Hell.

Author:  Nerolyn [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:26 am ]
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Sorcerer Nerolyn hype! :D

Author:  Maelfyn [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:33 am ]
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At 85? Holy cow... ! :)

Author:  Nerolyn [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:35 am ]
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Wizards are insane. I didn't even use iceblock or my dark elf racial and I beat Nalatos at ~50% hp. :D

Author:  TadaceAce [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:54 am ]
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Nerolyn wrote:
Wizards are insane. I didn't even use iceblock or my dark elf racial and I beat Nalatos at ~50% hp. :D


Should do a mini guide in the wizard forum. You're certainly the foremost authority and I wouldn't mind trying one.

Author:  Nerolyn [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:10 am ]
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TadaceAce wrote:
Nerolyn wrote:
Wizards are insane. I didn't even use iceblock or my dark elf racial and I beat Nalatos at ~50% hp. :D


Should do a mini guide in the wizard forum. You're certainly the foremost authority and I wouldn't mind trying one.

Yep, I was going to. Just wanted to get a video for Nalatos on Hell to show a longer example of how to play one during bossfights.

Author:  Foll [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:14 am ]
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I don't know who will be the first to clear hell on hardcore at level 99, but I'd wager it'll be a dark elf enchanter. :lol:

Apparently someone knows how to get a DE ENC to lvl 97 in less than a day.

Author:  hats [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:21 am ]
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i'd grind forward to 99 right now if i wasn't busy with irl business.. hallmark of a good game, making me decide whether or not i want to push hours here or hours studying

cheers to maelfyn for putting us in this situation.. truly a fantastic game, deserves viral attention

Author:  vezio [ Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:45 am ]
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Really a great game, congratz Maelfyn!

On topic, will try and go for first Mage to clear Hell, though I'm only in Nightmare Act4 for now - work and rl getting in the way...

Author:  Akuma no Tsubasa [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:46 pm ]
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Not the first, second or third, but:
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Author:  mukkel [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:04 pm ]
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Congrats! :)

Author:  Maelfyn [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:07 pm ]
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Nice work! Two difficulty levels left! ;)

Author:  TadaceAce [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:29 pm ]
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Warder Tadtwo checking it! Ranger done. Maelentia was by far the most challenging imo.

Author:  Maelfyn [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:42 pm ]
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Noob here. Are the boss fights fun in hell?

Author:  TadaceAce [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:53 pm ]
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Maelfyn wrote:
Noob here. Are the boss fights fun in hell?


Yes, they are the best in hell. The bosses have some meat to them and its a tactical endurance fight more than just kill them before they kill you.

Author:  Maelfyn [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:56 pm ]
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I will say I think it was a real challenge to make 1v1 boss fights interesting for 14 different classes with tons of talent variety. It's a lot easier to design a 24 v 1 fight because it allows players to specialize in different tasks, but in this game you have to cover all the bases with one character.

Author:  TadaceAce [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:59 pm ]
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Maelfyn wrote:
I will say I think it was a real challenge to make 1v1 boss fights interesting for 14 different classes with tons of talent variety. It's a lot easier to design a 24 v 1 fight because it allows players to specialize in different tasks, but in this game you have to cover all the bases with one character.


It is difficult, it forces you to sort of homogenize each class, they need to have similar DPS and survivability. I think that's entirely fine so long as each class plays differently (which they do!).

Author:  hats [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:52 pm ]
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Maelfyn wrote:
I will say I think it was a real challenge to make 1v1 boss fights interesting for 14 different classes with tons of talent variety. It's a lot easier to design a 24 v 1 fight because it allows players to specialize in different tasks, but in this game you have to cover all the bases with one character.


Aye if you look at my enchanter thread (I'm sure you have) I pointed out you really don't need to commit to an excessive balancing in a single player game such as this. There are plenty of established games in which certain classes are simply recognized by the community as easier to play. Tales of Maj'eyal for example uses this as a mechanic. In that game, which is also exclusively single player, you have to accomplish certain achievements with the easier classes before you unlock the harder classes.

This game doesn't use that unlocking mechanic in such a way (though I'm all for unlocking rewards for hitting 99 with a class!!), but I think segregating the leaderboard with races + recognizing folks for hitting 99 / beating hell with individual classes accounts for this somewhat.

That said, will be happy to continue whistleblowing ways in which certain classes get a free pass on this or that type of encounter (at this point, I've only intensively played enchanter). My enchanter thread suggests enchanters can easily defeat bosses, but man, I can't even auto attack in hell at this point because my alacrity also affects my own auto attacks. I'm afraid I'll get eaten by thorns/wall of flames/conviction on everyday prefix mobs (exactly how Pons died). Its already balanced in that way. Enchanter is very weak against certain ambush situations and I'm living in fear trying to get first HC hell completion...

In short though, I've completely changed my strat for hell... made it way more interesting, and fun! if thats the question.

Author:  hats [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:46 am ]
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WELL SON OF A GUN

died to an ambush talkin on the phone

alright that's it. i'll be back HC but im going to have to go crush normal enchanter ladder RQ.. born stamper

Author:  Lost_Map [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:54 am ]
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:( God Bless Cosmos

Author:  hats [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:56 am ]
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my own damn fault for taking a few beers in the delicate tightrope that is 96+ HC... maelfyn implemented a pause button for a goddamn reason

kicking my own balls right now, as hard as i can

Author:  Maelfyn [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:05 am ]
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Pause is a really technical feature, too. That was hard to implement !

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